Universal Access To All Knowledge
Home Donate | Store | Blog | FAQ | Jobs | Volunteer Positions | Contact | Bios | Forums | Projects | Terms, Privacy, & Copyright
Search: Advanced Search
Anonymous User (login or join us)
Upload

Reply to this post | Go Back
View Post [edit]

Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 14, 2009 6:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Yep folks--I can indeed post on the band, and even one year after June 68 for gawd's sake...

Tidbit in the news this AM bout how much acts were paid at the Big Event 40 yrs ago:

Jimi: $35k
JJop: $12k (think)
Band: $12k (them and JJ might have been $15k)
CCR: $10k
Airplane: $10k
DEAD: $7.5k
Santana: $1.5k (was it even worth it?)

Discuss?

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 14, 2009 8:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

What? No numbers on ShaNaNa? Shame.

If I were bugging out on some fine blotter and these gold-lame wearing guidos appeared, I believe I would implode.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 14, 2009 4:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Yeah, they have been talking about them being this bizarre college group of friends...how anyone can consider them part of the "scene" I just don't get...It is much worse than Diamond being at the closing of Winterland IMHO.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: lobster12 Date: Aug 14, 2009 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Curious what the Who was paid since it was the first performance on US soil.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 14, 2009 9:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Monterey Pop was well before Woodstock - The Who performed there. You are forgiven....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROQVSPsV2kg

... wait, are you saying Monterey is not US soil? Many might agree and Salinas is a Mexican killing field these days...

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2009-08-14 16:37:41

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: lobster12 Date: Aug 14, 2009 9:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

My bad. For some reason I remember Garcia talking about The Who at Woodstock smashing their instruments and blowing the Dead out of the water. For some reason I thought he said it was their first gig here

This post was modified by lobster12 on 2009-08-14 16:44:20

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 14, 2009 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Thanks one and all; not all acts were listed, and like you, SDH, I wondered about SNNaaa.

And agree that though not paid too much it was certainly the "coming out" party for Santana, and on the "futures" aspect, more than compensatory.

I was more struck by the variation among the acts, though it fits, roughly with public popularity I suppose.

Oh, JBaez was in the second group as well (ie, the $10-15k range!). Good for her.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: mcgannahan Date: Aug 14, 2009 11:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

is $$$ why the stones didn't play woodstock? i can't imagine them not being invited to play, they had to be one of the biggest acts at that time, other than the beatles.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Aug 14, 2009 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

For what it's worth, this is from Wikianswers:

It was by invitation only & The Rolling Stones were not invited to attend. According to "Woodstock: an encyclopedia of the music and art fair" (pp145-6) the Rolling Stones weren't invited for two main reasons: One, the high performance fee they were getting was more than the Woodstock organizers wanted to pay. Two, the Stones' big hit at the time they were under consideration was "Street Fightin Man" and there was concern that their material might damage the "peace, love & understanding" nature of the concert.
The following groups were invited but canceled:

Jeff Beck Group (the band broke up in July, forcing cancellation)

Iron Butterfly (stuck at the airport, their manager demanded helicopters and special arrangements just for them. Were wired back and told, as impolitely as Western Union would allow, "to get lost", but in other words.)

Joni Mitchell (Joni's agent put her on "The Dick Cavett Show" instead)

Lighthouse (feared that it would be a "bad scene".)

Ethan Brown (arrested for LSD three days before the event.)

The following groups declined to attend:

The Beatles (John Lennon said he couldn't get them together)

Led Zeppelin (got a higher paying gig elsewhere)

Bob Dylan (turned it down because of his disgust with the hippies hanging around his house)

The Byrds (turned it down because of a melee during their performance at the first Atlanta International Pop Festival, held at the Atlanta International Raceway on July 4 and July 5, 1969)

Tommy James & the Shondells (turned it down because they were misinformed about the size and scope of the event)

Jethro Tull (turned it down because they thought it wouldn't be a big deal)


The Moody Blues (unknown reasons)

Mind Garage (declined because they thought it wouldn't be a big deal and had a higher paying gig elsewhere)




Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 14, 2009 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Thanks CCD! Knew the story about Joni as she often talks of it (ironic with her having written THE song!???).

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: banditos33 Date: Aug 14, 2009 11:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

I dont think that it was money. They played Altamont later for free.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 14, 2009 6:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

The average income in the US in 1969 would, I believe, have been in the region of $5000. A three-day festival ticket would have set you back $24. The equivalent of two year's plus of an average guy's take home doesn't sound too bad to me - even if you do have to split it with the crew.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Aug 14, 2009 7:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Considering Carlos was all of 22 years old at Woodstock, just a couple of months older than our punk Bobby, it was a great gig no matter what it paid. Not to mention that the set Santana turned in was hotter than a two peckered billy goat in a pepper patch.

IMO it was at least on par with JA's & CSNY's set, but not quite up there with Sly.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 14, 2009 8:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Agree that Sly jus destroyed the place. The standout performance, IMHO.

Yeah, I know many will say Jimi, but the thermonuclear energy that Sly's set produced was truly amazing.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Aug 14, 2009 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

"Sly and the Family Stone Render Office Furniture Useless On The Eastern Seaboard" New York Times August 17, 1969

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 14, 2009 9:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

Ain't that the freakin' truth.

I am very careful not to listen to "Higher" in any enclosed space. Very, very dangerous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBIA7hZE0l0

Ikea be damned!

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 14, 2009 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

So, just wondering, was Alvin Lee on a dollar-a-note deal?

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 14, 2009 8:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

If so, he would have been able to retire a very rich man.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: snori Date: Aug 14, 2009 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

For a lot of us this was an introduction to Santana. Like many others I bought their albums up to Caravanserai, by which time I decided that I had enough. So financially for them it was worth it, and musically for me it was worth it.

I like the collaborations with the Dead, and if memory serves when Carlos guests on 22nd or 23rd August '87 Bob comments on what a joy it is to play with him.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: mreyus Date: Aug 14, 2009 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Compensation at Woodstock (Finally! DEAD related...)

mountain and the who were also incindiary.

i was there, still have original 3 day passes.
they are under glass and are/will be the property of my 3 sons.

rock on